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In this rich and reflective conversation, Kathie welcomes Elisa from Apple Turnover to explore how routines can serve as a form of quiet rebellion against hustle culture. The two delve into the ways simple, intentional living supports creativity, rest, and deeper connection—with ourselves, the seasons, and our communities.
Key Topics Covered:
Routine as Foundation: Instead of using routines to hustle, Elisa shares how structure helps her build space for rest, creativity, and meaningful work.
From Chaos to Rhythm: Elisa reflects on how motherhood, ADHD, and farming nudged her toward establishing grounding rituals.
Intentional Simplicity: We emphasize choosing what matters most and letting go of societal pressure to do or have it all.
Seasonal Living: The conversation moves into seasonal rhythms, from noticing changing light to connecting with local food sources, no matter where you live.
Community over Rugged Individualism: Elisa and Kathie reflect on the need to unlearn hyper-independence and embrace asking for help.
“Every time you keep it a little simpler… you’re giving others permission to do the same.”
Small Acts as Activism: The two highlight that living simply, sharing resources, and choosing contentment are powerful, rebellious acts in today’s consumerist culture.
“The collaborative economy is total rebellion. And it’s world building.”
Favorite Sound Bites:
“I call it ‘the small work’—just do a little bit more, and it grows.”
“It’s not hard. It just takes knowing how.”
“It shouldn’t be a privilege to eat food without toxins.”
Takeaway:
Routine isn’t about rigidity—it’s about making space for the life you want to live. Whether you’re preserving pears, tidying a garage, or baking bread, these daily rituals can reconnect us to what truly matters.
Where to Find Elisa
Her Website: Apple Turnover